who poisoned henriette in versailles show
Claudine then enters and grills Bontemps, the Queen and Philippe about the symptoms while Henriette gasps in pain on the bed. Then he looks to Rohans hand tapping on the stone, decorated with a ring and the penny drops. Louis staggers to his feet, Montcourt bleeding out on the floor, and he goes to Marchal, who has collapsed near the fireplace. You, me, Henriette. Excellent. even if it turned out his brother was the poisoner. And then down by the promontory. (*cries*), Bontemps goes to see Louis. then goes into the bedchamber. Such a beautiful moment, with Philippe building on their complex relationship, reminding Louis of a more simplistic time. What a great mix of observation and humor. THIS. So that would perhaps put affair-with-sister-in-law a half tick closer to pardonable than homosexuality, which is wholly and completely condemned in the bible. Mainly wanted to know about Chevalier after last weeks tearful declaration of love. Its just that his anger and upset (and yes, jealousy I think) affects him so much, because its just another way for his brother to control and belittle him, make him less. We defended our position from the Spanish all morning and in honour of your distinguished service. And she is the only one who knew who prepared Henriettes chicory water. Historically, poison was definitely suspected in Henriette's death and briefly, here's how it went down: It was 1670 and Henriette was pissed off she couldn't be with Louis at Versailles, and of course Monsieur knew this, so he ordered her to accompany him to Saint Cloud. She is used by the king to hurt his brother. Thank you so much for your in depth response to my question. Philippe is most definitely not the victim in his marriage. We see about ten hooded figures, along with the Unmasked Man whom Rohan freed from jail. Her cheeriness disguised the fact that she was unwell. She is powerless. But of course, she has no power to rid herself of him, so his death would be her only chance. Thank you all! (Same with the Chevalier and his jealousy of Philippes wives. Philippe: my brother always trusted you. Claudine: I am honoured. Philippe whispers: I dont believe I know what it feels like. .. Emo Philippe, so dark and tortured! It is only since the end of the 20th centuary up to present day that wives can now shout rape, I know of a woman in the 60s that had a baby and had to be stitched, her husband cut her stitches out and raped her. A side-note: On Sophie. We see a quick shot of Montcourts body being dumped from a cart into the muddy swampiness, to join other rotting, decaying bodies. Get him out! Henriette cries. She could not affect change herself. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. I was more appalled at Louis seeming lack of concern for his brothers life. but it is later, after they already speak with the guards in the background. His contemplation is silent. Another suggestion is that she had porphyria, although she displayed none of its symptoms. Montcourt denies it: No, Sire. In the days when it was only you who /truly/ had my back. Why? Well, my thought is Philippe angrily claiming his conjugal rights may well have happened before. I really enjoy your reviews. He gets up and leaves, walking through the corridors with a candelabra. He tucks Louis in then gets into his small cot (that looks like a camping bed), fully clothed. Philippe weeps. Yep. Louis persists. for Season 2. Is he justified in his behaviour towards her? Now she is in a marriage that will never give her any joy with a man she does not love and she should risk displeasing her lover, the king, by rejecting him? The Chevalier is still silent, still focused on Henriette. So do I believe that our enemies would dare to poison King Charles of Englands sister? Everyone shares a look because, yeah, they know. I think that if he really loved Henriette that much, he wouldnt have gotten over her so quickly and easily, once they dangled a pretty, young blonde newcomer court lady to distract him. And the person either asserts himself or is subjugated to the will of others. I just wanted to tell you that I enjoy your reviews and will keep reading them through saison 2. Its emotionless. Poisoned? Louis meanwhile, is disorientated (and by this time I am wondering where the guards are with all this noise, despite Marchal telling them not to disturb them). . It was total and raw and real and I wept long and bitter tears for him. UGH D:. So anyways, off we go. Philippe and Henriette are quite possibly the two people Louis loves most, and yet he uses and hurts them both repeatedly to get what he wants and because he is paranoid about his brother. Henriette 12 episodes, 2015-2017 Anatole Taubman . She is not indulgent in it. Does she want to end things with Louis? He should be he has not given up either of their names for the part they played in his arrest. Much kudos to Nomie Schmidt for a brilliantly sad scene, aided by the backing music and the strength and emotion of George Blagden and Alex Vlahos. Charming. Im genuinely curious to know why you consider Philippe the victim and Henriette the traitor in that relationship. Claudine looks sad: this must be frightening for her. Next time we see the painting in Ep 6 it has been moved to Henriettes room on her dressing table. Merci! And Philippe is the one who looks tortured, he is the emotional one, while Louis remains stoic. Beating your wife was also quite legal, acceptable and, indeed, expected. plus its almost as if he has something to say, to hide. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. Historically, poison was definitely suspected in Henriettes death and briefly, heres how it went down: It was 1670 and Henriette was pissed off she couldnt be with Louis at Versailles, and of course Monsieur knew this, so he ordered her to accompany him to Saint Cloud. It was all out there. Which one? Louis asks. Our dear Henriette. ? Not sure and he leaves. [4] Pot, meet kettle. I am waiting eagerly for the second season and I really hope to see you write about it then. (Historical note: this happened and wasnt at all odd) The door suddenly opens, the Queenis standing there. Coming from the quills of noted showrunners David Wolstencroft and Simon Mirren, both known for gripping series with a conspiratorial bent (i.e. Louis reels off a list of people who were with Henriette on her journey, people that must be interrogated. Henriette, Duchesse dOrlans, the sister-in-law of Louis XIV, took a drink of her usual chicory water and immediately clutched her side, crying out in pain. Societal expectations do not alter basic human reality. *The only voice, your own. Now, seeing as sister-in-law wasnt even a thing then, this would be like actually shagging your sister. I could never love you more. From the bed, Henriette says pitifully, Dont leave me and straight away, we know who that is aimed at. Some were obviously written for massive impact. The historical notes you added were my favourite of all, I love knowing whats accurately portrayed and for the parts that were tweaked, what the actual history was. The Mysterious Death of Henriette, Duchesse dOrlans, Toad Testicles, Foul-Beard and Broad-Arse. Her husband is openly gay and has no problem flaunting it in the public. Previously, we see Masson offer the same bottle offered to Louis when the king is sick (and Masson reels off a list of ingredients), and the bottle being secretively replaced, so Masson definitely did not know it was poisoned. Marchal is still ordering: Get his Majesty to safety, at once! His guards rush in to remove him, they scuffle and Louis yells: get your hands off me! Mike did. In every possible way. .. now, I am not saying that Colbert is implying Philippe poisoned his wife, but it sure sounds like it. The camera pans around him and yet still, not one muscle is out of place, not one twitch of emotion. I am a friend. Last scene, with Louis silent and stoic, standing on a stone that overlooks a glorious view of the forest with Versailles in the distance. I look forward to reading your reviews on the next series, when it comes out. I cannot even imagine his reasoning for this, however I do know historically, Henriette desperately did want to be Queen of France, as did her mother want it, but at the time, she didnt have the pedigree, being the sister to Englands heir who wasnt even on the throne at the time. And to Ainee for perspective. And I see all the little things that Henriette says, her little gestures and actions that bring conflict and sadness to Philippe. This was served to Henriette by her unsuspecting maid. the kiss between the Chevalier and Philippe happens after the war, after Philippe has seen Louis bring Henriette to the front. How do we find the poisoner? And who can blame her? Yes. And laudanum as a sedative was much used at the time. She allows grief but only briefly. The writers could have written a scenario where Henriette willingly sleeps with Phillipe to make Louis jealous and to provide in an explanation in the event she becomes pregnant. Hi, I know times and attitudes were different then, but a person violated still feels violated, whether they are allowed to acknowledge it or not. It is so interesting to watch, given a discussion I had on Twitter earlier with some fellow fans. We stake our claim or we are ploughed into the field. Absolutely enjoyed your recap of the finale. Remember, Henriette, as a woman, is completely powerless. They talk about whats happening Marchal is questioning people, and Sophie was taken in that morning. Louis finally nods to the guards, the pikes are uncrossed and Philippe takes a breath and walks out without a backwards glance.The Chevalier gives him a few feet head start, then strolls after him, hands behind his back, not looking at Louis, not bowing. In perfect sync. Thank you, Amy! The state is a person. Exactly. Marchal, his shirt now stained with his wound, stumbles into the antechamber, to Bontemps and says: Listen to me. You sound worse than Montespan and de Clermont sparring over the card-tables! Thanks for your great reviews! But not at the hands of Henriette, who really had little power in the situation. I think Philippe will always blame Louis for Henriette's death, and I can't see when they'll ever be reconciled again. She is subject to the whims and wishes of her king and lover, of her husband and even of her husbands lover. Bring the garden here, Louis commands * (YES I called this line too I am KING OF THE LAB! They could be far away from the victim at the time of death, so it would be difficult to definitively pin on anyone. A rant about the UK press and their Versailles reviews. And she was having an affair with the Comte de Guiche. However, the bible does say something about a man being expected to marry his brothers widow. Maybe that is where she got the poison she used on Fabien? Louis drops the poker, approaches Montcourt. Still, Louis suspicions had been aroused and he ordered an autopsy, which was performed by French doctors and witnessed by others sent from England. To affect the hearts and minds of people. In one of the episodes did we see Clermont messing with the doctors box of bottles.. Also I have to add SPOILER ALERT!!!! Again, so so love your words. Louis: And that makes you a liar.. Henriette, however, was never robust and often experienced such terrible pains in her side that she would lie on the floor to find respite. Her father was King Charles I of England, her mother the youngest daughter of Henry IV of France and Marie de' Medici. She is a toy left to gather dust on the shelf and which Louis has taken from him just to prove that he can. oh sorry, wrong show). ), (*WTF. #JesusTakeTheWheel What a scene. ), Back to Louis outside his bed chamber, where Henriettes screams of pain can be heard. Your closest confidants told you to look elsewhere! Is that understood? and pushes past them. After doing an excellent job negotiating an alliance with England against the Dutch (which was then promptly overturned), Henriette returns to Versailles just in time to be poisoned and die in blood-soaked agony. Yes, it was the thinking of that time but wouldnt that make her a victim of circumstances, rather to be pitied than villified? Im merely suggesting you might save some time. Marchal persists, pointing out that Louvois always disagrees frequently and loudly with the Kings decisions. And Louis coming out the good guy. But unlike Philippe, Henriette never snogged her lover obnoxiously right there in the same room with him. Required fields are marked *. And stunned when Louis says shes in his bedchamber. I have one comment / correction on what you wrote on Henriettes death scene. But for that one unforgivable act, I could have felt real sympathy for that walking, talking mess of dysfunction. When Marchal goes down and Montcourt takes the knife, Louis lunges, some more fighting with Marchal again entering the fray.. and then OMG Marchal is stabbed!!! Colbert tries to push his point when Louis enters. Spooks), it was no surprise when this drama arrived with a hearty dollop of sex, violence, tension, and intrigue. Your question misses the question, Montcourt replies cryptically. She is gravely ill. Montespan pauses for a second, then declares she must go to her (because you know, Montespan is supposed to be one of her ladies-in-waiting). Not long to go now, and we are with Marchal, who lies in bed, wakes suddenly and touches his stomach wound, which bleeds through the bandage. You have never been a man whos true. It unfortunately follows that her absence would weaken you. But to his brother? Louis, who never forgave a slight, always ensured that the guilty paid dearly. Ive mentioned before that his intimate interactions with women in the show are used as a form of punishment towards those who have hurt him Louis (with Louise and Henriette) and the Chevalier (with the maid). Except, when hes really angry and he rapes her. Philippe looks up to Louis with wet puppy eyes, Louis looks at Philippe, his all flinty and hard. You did this to her. Louis looks shocked: Brother. Philippe will have none of it: We warned you. What about the angels? he asks, after Montcourt nervously says hes been praying for Henriette. Ive said this before in comments. I am really liking Sophies growth as a character, who is, of course, beautiful, but with attitude and a strong backbone, as we are now seeing. But that was the thinking of the time. Ill tell you, though, that, like you, I totally adore Philippe in this series, the actor is great and some King/brother interaction is well done. Ive found some interesting, unedited sources about him and I hope to write very soon a book to make some justice to this very, very mistreated character. But that was the thinking of the time. A brief scene follows, showing Rohan and the Dauphin sword playing and pretending a jolly game of war in the forest, thenwe are back to the Kings bedchamber where Henriette sleeps and Philippe is outside in the antechamber, brooding by the fireplace as Louis walks in. And suddenly Marchal has his ah-HA moment. I just discovered Versailles this week and watched it in quick succession!!! However, Madeleine de Foix, Gaston's mother, defends her son at the salon, but when facing banishment, she stabs Fabien, almost killing him. Still with the playing of games, the half-truth words. Your loyalty can lie with Philippe while still acknowledging that Henriette is also a victim and not the villain (the real villain here is Louis). How can people not see Rohans calculating glances, his sly little looks? In this respect, they are both on fairly equal footing. Today you get the chance to kill a king! While hes saying this, Marchal behind them is taking out a knife, and suddenly he slides it across the floor, and Louis picks it up, and Montcourt lunges another candlestick is involved.. OMG And then Louis grabs Montcourt from behind and sinks the knife into him! And there is also Dangerous Liaisons, but that is set in the 18th century. And just like that, the light dims in his eyes, his face twists and his zealotry is gone. Point 5: Ah, Henriettes remark about Philippes glorious death in battle. I could see the Chevalier if not Philippe taking on Sophie as a sort of pet, his project, I imagine the Chevalier would have adored trying to corrupt a sweet young thing like Sophie. Rohan grabs her by the throat, saying it is not yet clear to him what she has done to earn her money, then demands she clean his room before leaving. Philippe was there in the woods and saved Louis from the wolves, but at the end of season one hes left Versailles. I do think it is out-of-character for the Philippe we know and love on the show, not just historically inaccurate, to force himself on her. My bed your last stop before retiring. It could possibly be the same spot from Ep1, when he confronted the wolf and Philippe rode in to rescue him. Yes, it was common to talk about marriage that soon! SYNC. Anne, Hi Jules haha that last message should have ended (I agree with you on all POINTS) not pints . And yes, the Chevalier does live to quite a ripe old age . Rohan slits the other guards throat, watches from a distance as the young prince has a sack put over his head then bundled off. Queen Marie-Thrse noted that everyone was talking about Henriettes death and the manner of it. I really like him as a character, even though he tortures people. But of course, she wants to know what happened to her mother in exchange for that information. In Paris, says Colbert. b) To show a glimpse of vulnerability for Henriette because for all her power, she is still the property of her husband and can be treated as such. ! Louis is stunned: Why are you casting all this rage at me? Philippe: Because you deserve it. I especially like the pairing of her and Marchal. The French musical Le Roi Soleil is always great to watch. And remember you can also start at the beginning and read my reviews of EpisodesOne, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six,Seven,Eight. She also miscarries a baby that was either her husband Philippe's or the King's, no one is sure. So Louis settles into sleep. Plus he told Louis he didnt recognise the sender of the notes which is technically true. I have some questions. Brilliant writing. Desire for glory. Henriette gasps, crying and in pain. Henriette answered Montagu with a shrug: she did not know. Louis is calm but angry: then you set yourself against me. Philippe pauses, looks incredibly sad for a moment, then briefly nods. It is fascinating to compare Philippes two moments of deep anguish side by side: when the Chevalier was arrested, we saw his total and complete breakdown, the slow crumple of his expression from shock, to horror, to abject grief, then as he collapsed to his knees and rocked while he wept. Im genuinely having real trouble understanding your position here. There are a few movies I enjoy that are fairly accurate. Finally, did the male medicin drink the vial of poison accidentally or on purpose? To bring them over to us. did the male medicin drink the vial of poison accidentally or on purpose? Bontemps moves her along. and to Marchal in his office, interrogating Montcourt. But his treatment of her does make me think, rather than an actual person, the writers have quite subtly used her as a tool: she is the only person Philippe can take his frustrations out on he knows she loves Louis, and at that point Louis is still very much in love with her Philippe knows this, and punishes Louis the only way he can, but punishing his mistress. The camera hovers over the prone Henriette then pans up from the bed, like we are her soul being released from her body. She was merely being used by the man she was in love with. While it seems like shes being unfair to Philippe, he doesnt really put up an effort to make himself lovable most of the time. Then Philippe walks out, still dressed in his nightshirt and robe, barefoot. And even after watching both seasons 1 and 2 of Versailles, I wouldnt say that he loved her a lot but on the show it was to a certain degree. fantastic bog! Theyve always known. Claudine Masson Fabien Marchal Henriette of England Henriette and Montespan Fabien and Sophie Isabella Braganza Claudine and Fabien Marie-Thrse and Montespan Versailles (series) Sophie de Clermont Philippe of France Henriette and Louis Philippe and Liselotte's Wedding Chevalier and Henriette Categories To my observation, we do not know who messed with the bottles I was assuming it was Mike or Rohan, because the hand is gloved and we do not see the face. As her husband, Philippe, rushed to her bedside, Henriette chided him, Alas, Monsieur, it is a long time since you loved me, but this is unjust. Alerted, Henriettes lady-in-waiting watched the duke closely, but he showed no indication of guilt and every sign that he was distressed by his wifes condition. I believe Louis did love her. And it certainly wasnt the unwavering, steadfast, loyal or constant love that one would most want from a beloved one. Protocol demands that he stays, Philippe says tightly. I came across your reviews and I read each one after viewing an episode. I guess in summary, I saw more nuance and non-verbal cues with Philippe that made him a more sympathetic character. We are NOT touching her! Philippe finally says. It was very clear from episode 1 that you were not a fan of Henriette and I found that quick jarring to read in your reviews. They had children. We learn that she has loved Louis since they were children. Much later, the courtier Saint-Simon offered his own thoughts. Kill him, then me, and blame it on him. If you have to, just close your eyes and think of France. Versailles (TV Series 2015-2018) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. As Montcourt is delivering this little speech, the camera angle singles out the massive symbolism in the shot: the angels on his leather sash belt. I choose to believe it was a mistake on the writers part and will simply fast forward over it when I rewatch. Louis has not (even though yeah, okay, protocol). And, more importantly, Henriette NEVER RAPED Philippe. Does Henriette mind being used by Louis? But Sophie declares she has no life: what her mother told her was a lie. And even if not, we see what Philippe is capable of when hes in a jealous snit. Ugh. There are times when I will shout (in my head), Just leave this place and run back to England.. First off, let me preface my response with the qualifier that I know very little about the historical figures on which these characters are based. This moment echoes the first from the opening scene in Episode One, where the traitors rush in on the pretext of getting Louis safely away. Would you villify a slave because he hated his master or ran away simply because slavery was accepted at that time and slaves (much like women, little difference there) were considered nothing more than the property of their masters to do with as they please (again, just as a woman was to her husband)?
